X.Org BoD meeting minutes 2019-09-12

Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter at ffwll.ch
Tue Sep 17 16:47:00 UTC 2019


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:37 PM Luc Verhaegen <libv at skynet.be> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 02:23:31PM +0200, Luc Verhaegen wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 02:05:52PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:09 PM Luc Verhaegen <libv at skynet.be> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Why was Daniel Stone sent on CoC training paid by the X.org board, and
> > > > thus by sponsor money. What role on the X.org board does he fulfill? Can
> > > > all X.org members get paid CoC training now, i am sure many of us would
> > > > like that on our resumes as well.
> > >
> > > Once more, to make it really clear: This is about specifically
> > > attacking people. The very thinly veiled excuse of making it about
> > > procedural issues is just a distraction. If you want to critize that,
> > > or much better, help improve it, I'm all ears. I'm not accepting
> > > backhanded sleight of hands. Again, all you achieve here is making a
> > > solid case to get you expulsed from X.org.
> >
> > Ok, let me try again.
> >
> > What are the formal conditions for the X.org board spending money on
> > sending people on CoC training?
>
> So...
>
> Why is a non board member sent on CoC training? What are the
> prerequisites for sending standard Xorg members to such training?
>
> I had hoped that the move to SPI would bring increased transparency and
> accountability. What we got instead is financial reports which are 5
> months after the end of the financial year. There is sadly no current
> requirement in the bylaws to hold elections at a given time, which
> totally detaches elections from the performance of the existing board
> members.
>
> Similarly, i had hoped that fd.o integration would lead to increased
> transparency and accountability. I have seen none of those so far. All i
> have seen so far is someone, who has been known to abuse his role as
> admin of fd.o, having Xorg sponsor money spent on, for no reason that i
> have seen a good explanation for yet.

I'm not going to legitimize your harassing by pretending this entire
thread didn't start and didn't just have the goal of delivering a
personal attack, and instead was really just meant to clear up some
questions you've had that the minutes didn't answer. Because it really
isn't.

For anyone else who's honestly interested in what the board has been
discussing around coc enforcement, what we've done already, what's
still planned, and where we're still discussing what's the best
option, I'm obviously happy to elaborate. I'll definitely bring this
up plenty at the XDC hallway track.

Thanks, Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
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