X.Org BoD meeting minutes 2019-09-12

Daniel Vetter daniel.vetter at ffwll.ch
Mon Sep 16 12:05:52 UTC 2019


On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 1:09 PM Luc Verhaegen <libv at skynet.be> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 11:12:55AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 3:19 AM Luc Verhaegen <libv at skynet.be> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 04:01:43PM -0400, Lyude Paul wrote:
> > > > Correction: all of the XDC2020 stuff should be labeled as XDC2019, whoops.
> > > > >
> > > > > ITEM: coc training
> > > > > Lyude Paul, Daniel Stone and Manasi Navare attended the CoC training session
> > > > > on Monday Sept 9th. Went very well, and was quite beneficial.
> > >
> > > Does this mean that daniels will now no longer go around and hack repos
> > > of, or refuse mailing lists and other infrastructure to people who are
> > > on his bad side?
> > >
> > > If so, money well spent, but there were cheaper options which could've
> > > been instituted as early as Q4 2010.
> >
> > I don't think anyone cares about your own take on a 10 year old story,
>
> 9. With off-shoots in 2012, and 2015 (when i was silently removed from
> planet.fd.o). And what did your managers tell you about why your hiring
> in intel was delayed?
>
> > I certainly dont. Repeatedly airing your grievance, especially on a
> > widely distributed list like members@ or in other public or
> > semi-public places is uncalled for. All you achieve here is recommend
> > your own expulsion from X.org. I request you stop such behaviour.
>
> Would that just be for airing my old grievances, or also for asking
> difficult questions when it comes to botched elections and woefully late
> financial reports (which i will implicitely do now), which should have
> appeared before the election even started.
>
> If you do not want anyone to criticize how sponsor money is being
> handled, and how open the reporting around it is, you might as well do
> away with elections.
>
> Now.
>
> Why was Daniel Stone sent on CoC training paid by the X.org board, and
> thus by sponsor money. What role on the X.org board does he fulfill? Can
> all X.org members get paid CoC training now, i am sure many of us would
> like that on our resumes as well.

Once more, to make it really clear: This is about specifically
attacking people. The very thinly veiled excuse of making it about
procedural issues is just a distraction. If you want to critize that,
or much better, help improve it, I'm all ears. I'm not accepting
backhanded sleight of hands. Again, all you achieve here is making a
solid case to get you expulsed from X.org.

Yours, Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
+41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch


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